Thursday, March 18, 2021

March Meeting: The Three Students


Four countries and countless states were present at this month's meeting as we discussed The Three Students.  News items discussed this month were:

The Beacon Society sponsors it's own version of the Fortescue Scholarship, and you don't need to translate any Greek.

The Irregulars begins this month on Netflix and Heather has a blog post about the online backlash to casting a person of color as Watson.


Stacey had a blog post about the role that tea would have played in Holmes's and Watson's lives.  And a new group of Sherlockian tea lovers has formed on Facebook, called the Tea Brokers of Mincing Lane.

Heather is co-hosting an online convention this month looking at female characters in the Canon and in the BBC Sherlock series, Sherlolicon.  

221B Con will be online April 9-11.

Joe shared that our new pins are available for purchase.  $10 + $2 S/H.

A new Enola Holmes book will be released this summer.

The latest Mars Rover has taken SHERLOC and WATSON to outer space!


The Harpooners of the Sea Unicorn meet on March 19.

Sherlockians of Baltimore meet on March 20.

The Priory Scholars of NYC meet on Sunday, April 25.

The Theatre-Goers, Homeward Bound host nearly weekly Sherlockian movie screenings.

And finally, due to CDC and Holmes in the Heartland has been cancelled.  


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And then it was time to get down to discussing The Three Students!

Rich started the story discussion off with his poem titled, Why I Don't Like the Three Students.

Shana said she wants to know all of the reasons that Holmes and Watson found themselves in a college town doing research that Watson only alludes to.

Bill announced that 3STU takes place in Oxford due to the biblical connections he has found in the text and also said that the second paragraph for this story could qualify for the Bulwer-Lytton award.  Rob, Beth, and Tamar noted just how long the footnotes were for that paragraph in the Klinger Reference Library: two full pages!

Sandy wondered how Watson had known Soames for so long.  Bill noted that Watson graduated from the University of London, so he wouldn't have known Soames from there, but Arthur wondered if Watson and Soames were childhood friends.

Linda shared the theory that 3STU was a conspiracy between Watson and Soames to keep Holmes's mind occupied.  Nancy said that Occam's Razor most likely applied instead of it being a conspiracy.  

Soames convinces Holmes to help him prevent a cheating scandal.  Someone has seen the Greek text of Thucydides to translate for the Fortescue scholarship and he must find out who it is.  Bill cited Lord Donnegall's argument that most scholars would be familiar with Thucydides and wouldn't need to copy the text.  Rich said it would be similar to seeing that the text was on the first four amendments of the Constitution; no need to copy it, just go upstairs and study.  Robert argued that much of Thucydides's writing was on political philosophy.  So maybe Gilchrist would not have been as familiar with it if the text had been on history.


John wondered if Watson had just had a bad run at the horse races and they were avoiding thugs coming to collect their money.  So Watson begged Holmes to find a case that could be written up to pay off his debts.  Bill added that the name of Watson's horse was probably Thucydides!  Steve thought the university wasn't very prestigious, so Watson was trying to hide the name of the town as to not embarrass how dumb the students were.

Sandy said using Thucydides for the Greek translation would be as easy as using Ceasar for Latrin translation: too easy.  Rob noted that Soames's translation was only one part of the Fortescue scholarship, so maybe he had an easier section that year.  Michael wondered if the translation was from different selections of his writing.

Michael also shared with us that he went to the University of Chicago, and their school cheer was:

Themistocles, Thucydides,

The Peloponnesian War,

X squared, Y squared,

H2SO4.

Who for? What for?

Who we gonna yell for?

Go, Maroons!


After a sidetrack into the walking tours of Chicago crime, we were back to our story.

Arthur wondered about how quickly Gilchrist was able to get his commission in the Rhodesian police.  Elaine and Sandy thought that he had enlisted in the police, but was going to go ahead with the Fortescue scholarship in case he would be able to win.  Edith said that the Rhodesian commission would make him a Rhodes Scholar.

We turned our attention to Bannister, and Randy and Steve led a discussion about forgetting where you left your keys.  Shana noted that this character was named after an architectural feature that blends into the wallpaper and Sandy said that a bannister is something you lean on, which Gilchrist had to do.  Andy said it was good that he wasn't named after the flying buttress.

The clues left in Soames's office were a scratch in his side table, pencil shavings, and clay.  David wondered how Gilchrist's shoe would only leave one tear in the desk instead of multiple.  Holmes decides that this was a crime of happenstance.  


Randy wondered if Bannister had done this on purpose to help Gilchrist.  Steve disagreed with that idea but Randy said Bannister was pretty jittery.  Shana said Bannister would have immediately realized how bad this all made him look.  We debated whether or not Soames or the university would have known if Bannister had worked for the Gilchrist family previously.

Elaine pointed out how snarky Holmes was towards Watson a few times in this story.  Shana cited Watson saying how out-of-place Holmes felt when he wasn't in Baker Street and wondered how miserable he was during the Great Hiatus.  Rob countered that Holmes was fine in a stone hut in Dartmoor and Monica said she can get a little testy without her creature comforts.  Steve said Holmes was in a bad mood because solving a kid stealing answers to a test would put someone of Holmes's status in a bad mood.  

Sandy wondered if it was just because his research on English charters wasn't going well.  Robin pointed out that Holmes said in HOUN that he had a knowledge of charters and many charters would have been lesser copies of the originals, and Holmes was mad that he was working with poor quality documents.


Andrew shared a theory that Holmes was in a bad mood because 3STU took place over Holmes's birthday, which he thinks is April 5.  Brad piggybacked on that theory that Holmes was in town for his birthday, visiting someone named Hilton Soames, which sounded a lot like "Sherlock Holmes" and Watson says that he's known Soames for some time.  "Hilton Soames" is a pseudonym for the third Holmes brother and the only reason Holmes took such a trifle of a case was to help his brother.  Shana said that name wasn't any worse than Sherrinford.  

Steve said he thought that many times the attitude that Holmes takes in the stories could be related to the attitude that the author was in during this time.  Right around the time that 3STU was written, Doyle had lost a cricket match.  Randy said that Doyle was always under pressure to turn in his next story.  Rob noted that stories collected in "The Return" weren't anything that Doyle wanted to write any more.

Monica shared that a brand of shampoo and conditioner is made by a company called Gilchrist-Soames.  

After a handful of people bagged on 3STU, Michael offered up that he once wrote a paper about what he DID like about the story.  3STU shows that British universities forwarded young men who already had a leg up in their social standing.  Even the foreign student, Dulat Ras, would have been from a well-to-do Indian family.  Michael argued that Holmes's bad attitude was that he disapproved of the British university system.  Srini supported Michael's statement of Ras, saying that Indian students would have had to paid to travel and live in England for their studies, and would then return to their home to administer in local politics.


In discussing the titular three students, we talked about Watson's depiction of Ras.  Srini said Watson was probably scarred by his time in India.  Arthur opened up a discussion about all of the bad characters who come from British colonies and John talked about how the colonies were used to ship people off to as punishment.  Madeline shared that the However Improbable podcast talked about the role of the colonies in the Sherlock Holmes stories.

Nancy noted that the three students showed different demographics of university students of the time.  Lou shared some research he had done into who Fortescue was and why a prize was named after him.  He found that a 17th century scholar had that name and wrote legal texts in Latin.  Beth said that the exam would probably have been over the Classics, which would have also included Latin.  Nancy said she thought that it would have also included philosophy, archaeology, geometry, and literature.

Arthur asked if there had been adaptations other than the radio shows.  Michael cited the Arthur Conan Doyle Encyclopedia and said that there was also a silent film version, starring Ellie Norwood.


Rob wondered if this story would have been better liked if this story included a good, old-fashioned murder.  Shana pointed out that Watson changed the names in this story, but supposedly left so many other people's reputations wide open for speculation in his other stories.

We debated whether or not Bannister was an honorable servant.  Shana said he was caught between two positions and navigated the situation as honorably as he could.  Nancy found his dedication to a dead master was odd, but honorable.  Robert said that honor meant a very different thing 125 years ago.  

Robert compared Bannister to Brunton in MUSG, who was fired for looking at his master's papers.  Beth said that Soames was originally upset with Bannister for the unpardonable sin of rifling through his papers.  And Steve said that the servants in HOUN weren't fired even after they had aided and abetted an escaped criminal.  Brad noted that the bar for an "honorable" servant couldn't have been that high.  Beth said that you had to trust your servants because you had no other choice!  Shana said Charles Augustus Milverton was always lurking to help out your upset servant.

Rob wrapped up the discussion with Holmes's statement, "For once you have fallen low.  Let us see in the future how high you can rise."  You can almost hear the violins swelling swelling under that line.

Our next meeting will be on May 8 to discuss The Golden Pince-Nez.  Zoom at once if convenient!

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